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The dreaded “service vehicle soon” message came on yesterday and after calling into my local garage they diagnosed a faulty no2 glow plug but they hadn’t got time to fix it. I’ve looked online and found there are 2 types, one with pressure sensors and one without. How do you find out what type my car has?
Thanks in advance


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Forgot to add it’s a 2012 2.0 CDTI


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#2
If you have stop start you need the ones with the sensors.

If you don't have stop start you need the ones without sensors.

If you changing it / them yourself apply some copper grease to the thread to help prevent them sizing in.
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#3
Cheers mate yeah it’s stop/start typical they’re the most expensive!!!


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#4
Rusty, do all 4 have pressure sensors because I've seen some advertised on eBay for 4 plugs, 3 x without and 1 x with?
I'm easily confused
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#5
All four should have the sensors (mine all have sensors).

You could replace just the faulty one but I'd also replace them as a set if one's failed the others normally won't be far behind.
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#6
Can’t believe the price difference between the two!!! Non sensor version £37.50 for 4, sensor version £72.50 each!!!


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#7
I know it's shocking mate.

I just had a look on GSF as they have 55% off but out the 3 they list not one says if it's for stop/start.
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#8
Was that price from the dealers? as I heard the dealer is cheaper than places like euro car parts etc for the glow plugs with the sensors also try http://www.genuinepartsearch.co.uk which is another part of autovaux which is genuine parts as sometimes there cheaper the dealer all you do is type in the part number to get the price, I used them quite alot for parts.

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#9
That’s off eBay, just tried part search and they’re £77.40 on there. Thanks for the advice though I’m going to see what my local garage can get them at trade for


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#10
No problem mate sometimes they are cheaper sometimes they aren't just your luck as I found them cheaper when buying the parts for my heated seats as the mats were 20 pound cheaper per mat than my dealer. I normally phone my dealer now then check that site and see what's cheaper.

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#11
The svs vehicle soon message had gone off today but I’m sure it’ll be back especially if the weather carries on being cold


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#12
carparts4less usually do them for around £60 each after applying a discount code.
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(2:nd-Feb-2018, 18:35:30)sparkyscfc74 Wrote: The dreaded “service vehicle soon” message came on yesterday and after calling into my local garage they diagnosed a faulty no2 glow plug but they hadn’t got time to fix it. I’ve looked online and found there are 2 types, one with pressure sensors and one without. How do you find out what type my car has?
Thanks in advance


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IIRC, when I had the SVS message, it was glow plug No.2 that failed. It was the more expensive pressure sensor plugs. Mine doesn't have start/stop. Again, IIRC, the garage told me that 2 of the plugs are pressure ones, the other 2 are the cheaper ones.
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#14
I noticed you said yours didn't have start/stop which is strange because all of the glow plugs I've been looking at with the pressure sensor say they're for vehicles with start/stop? Also I've noticed that since I've had the error, my start/stop hasn't been working so I'm still confused. Mine's in tomorrow for repair anyway so I'll post any findings
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(11:th-Feb-2018, 13:56:55)sparkyscfc74 Wrote: I noticed you said yours didn't have start/stop which is strange because all of the glow plugs I've been looking at with the pressure sensor say they're for vehicles with start/stop? Also I've noticed that since I've had the error, my start/stop hasn't been working so I'm still confused. Mine's in tomorrow for repair anyway so I'll post any findings

When glowplug 2 failed on mine, the garage said that there are 3 types of GP.

The cheaper non sensor ones.
The dearer pressure sensor ones.
The even dearer ones for start stop engines.

If I remember when I get home, I'll look at the invoice for the part No.
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#16
(12:th-Feb-2018, 11:58:55)Big Dave2 Wrote: If I remember when I get home, I'll look at the invoice for the part No.

The part No for Glow plug 2 on my 2.0CDTi (165) was 55590467
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#17
Mine was 55579436 charged me £74.90 but should have been £85 they passed on the discount because I used to work with them years ago


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(13:th-Feb-2018, 13:10:37)sparkyscfc74 Wrote: Mine was 55579436 charged me £74.90 but should have been £85 they passed on the discount because I used to work with them years ago


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That sounds like the 3rd type one for engines with SS.

I got 25% discount though my Masterfit Service Card, but it meant they had to also fit it to get the discount.
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#19
I have 2.0 cdti gtc with stop/start.
The glow plug in cylinder 1 is coming up as faulty. My question is, can an ordinary glow plug be used in my car or must I use a glow ug with a pressure sensor. Is the pressure sensor glow plug only for the operation of the stop/start system. To be honest I could live with out stop/start. Thanks.
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#20
My 2.0 CDTi doesn't have start/stop, but still has 2 pressure glow plugs. They're not only for the start/stop system.

IIRC, there are 3 different types of glow plug. Bog standard, pressure, and for start/stop engines.

Surely you should be changing like for like though?
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#21
I dont think you can use no-pressure sensor (cheapest) plugs on a car that needs the pressure sensor as the connector is different.
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#22
Yeah your correct, mechanic just showed me the difference in the plugs. Does anybody know if the glow plugs have to be programmed like injectors.
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#23
Nope, plug and play.
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