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NAVI 900 > NAVI 950 (2013)
#1
Howdy folks,

I was wondering if it's possible to get a navi 950 retrofitted in a 2013 car. 
It originally has a NAVI 900 (with bluetooth).

Would it need wiring changes?
I'm aware of the VCI codes required. I do own a MDI clone myself which hopefully will be able to program this.


Thank you in advance
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#2
Yes it is possible.

Only need to run a MIC wire.

be-aware of the VCI cost as the VCI is €95.00
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(22:nd-Jul-2018, 08:41:19)Rusty2009 Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Yes it is possible.

Only need to run a MIC wire.

be-aware of the VCI cost as the VCI is €95.00

Oh my vehicle has a built in microphone, or do they use a different connection?


Are the wiring the same then?

Thanks in advance Smile
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#4
The mic goes into the A11x4 plug on the back rather than the BT module and radio.

yes apart from the mic.
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(22:nd-Jul-2018, 12:13:17)Rusty2009 Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The mic goes into the A11x4 plug on the back rather than the BT module and radio.

yes apart from the mic.

Ahh i see, Thanks a bunch Rusty!

Time to go scout for parts!
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#6
i did it on my GTC that had a Navi900 i just jumped the connections on the plug that plugs into the BT module on the pin 9 to 18 pin 8 to 17 and pin 7 to 16. To change the Vin on the head unit i used a post on Cruzetalk.com pretty easy. no GM reprogramming required. You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
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#7
Thanks for the very helpfull tutorial man!

I'll most likely try to get a used Navi 950, Would you happen to know if the display needs to be changed aswell? I heard they use a different one.
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#8
Display does need changing.
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#9
is it okay to hack into this topic??

if i want to replace a cd500 with a navi 950
what parts need to be changed?
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(15:th-Jun-2019, 22:42:32)sw_reijnders Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.is it okay to hack into this topic??

if i want to replace a cd500 with a navi 950
what parts need to be changed?

Of course it is.

Main Navi box
Display screen
The control panel will still work but your find the Radio/band becomes the home button the CD/AUX becomes the source button.
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(16:th-Jun-2019, 08:42:22)Rusty2009 Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
(15:th-Jun-2019, 22:42:32)sw_reijnders Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.is it okay to hack into this topic??

if i want to replace a cd500 with a navi 950
what parts need to be changed?

Of course it is.

Main Navi box
Display screen
The control panel will still work but your find the Radio/band becomes the home button the CD/AUX becomes the source button.

so all the wires and cable looms are the same?
that's good news Smile

current uhp module will also work?
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(16:th-Jun-2019, 09:10:31)sw_reijnders Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
(16:th-Jun-2019, 08:42:22)Rusty2009 Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
(15:th-Jun-2019, 22:42:32)sw_reijnders Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.is it okay to hack into this topic??

if i want to replace a cd500 with a navi 950
what parts need to be changed?

Of course it is.

Main Navi box
Display screen
The control panel will still work but your find the Radio/band becomes the home button the CD/AUX becomes the source button.

so all the wires and cable looms are the same?
that's good news Smile

current uhp module will also work?

Yes they are. No the UPH module will need to be removed as it's not used a new microphone wire would need to be ran up-to the roof, also if you have DAB you may need to add 2 data wires from DAB module to main radio plug.
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#13
As mentioned before on Facebook, the older generation astra radio's had  a seperate bluetooth module "UPH". It sits underneath the radio box.
CD300, CD400, CD500, DVD 800, Navi 600, Navi 900.

These UPH bluetooth modules can only do phone calls.
(CD600, Navi 650 usually come with a UPH module, but there are versions of these radios which can bluetooth stream music)


The Navi 950 has it's own modern bluetooth module build into the radio itself. Which supports AD2P aswell as some more modern handsfree api's.

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If you wish to retrofit this radio, you'll have to disable your existing bluetooth module.
And then you have to rewire the existing microphone in your headliner to the back of the navi 950. (see A11x4)

You could try and depin the mic wires that go into the UPH module to the 950... (see K82 below)
But it's easier to just run new wires. (Rusty sells these replacement looms).

The hard part is scoring the unit itself, scrapyards know they're worth more.




K82
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A11x4
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