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HOW TO FIT leather heated seats and electric lumber support
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GENERAL AND THINGS TO CHECK.......

This How to is for the Heated Leather Seats
And Electric Lumber Support on the Astra J 5 Door

 
I have been Told this will Work for the GTC as well.

The first Thing you are Going to do is to Check the Rear Fuse Box
in the Rear Boot and look for a Fuse in Position (21)
a (25 amp) Fuse should be There if so you are all Good to go.

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The First thing to do here is to Discontent the Battery
just to be on the Safe side as there are Air Bags in the Seats
and Better to be Safe than Sorry.

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The next thing to Check is the Main Seat Connector
under the Drivers and Passengers Seats.

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Just lift the Flap under the Seat and you will see the Connector
Pull the Orange Tab out and Pull the Connector apart.
it will be Fixed to the Car with by a Tab that you will Need to Pull out
so you can see the Main body Side Connector
And Check the pins are there you need
The Seat Side Connector is Unimportant.
As this will be on your new Seat.  

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Now Check that you have all the Pins in the Picture like This
But (10) and (13) may be Missing for the Lumber Support
you will be Adding them Later on if they are not There.

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Drivers Seat Connector...

1.....Battery Positive Voltage.
2.....Passenger Heated Seat Element Supply Voltage.
3.....Driver Side Impact Module High Control.
4.....Driver Seat Belt Switch Signal.
5.....Driver Side Impact Module Low Control.
6....Driver Seat Belt Switch Low Reference.
7.....Driver Seat Belt Anchor High Control.
8.....Driver Seat Position Switch Signal.
9.....Driver Seat Belt Anchor Low Control.
10......Battery Positive Voltage lumbar support.
11.....Passenger Heated Seat NTC Low Reference.
12.....Low Speed Serial Data.
13.....Ground lumbar support.
14.....Passenger Heated Seat NTC Signal.
15.....Passenger Heated Seat Element Return.
16.....Ground.

Passenger seat Connector....

1.....Passenger Heated Seat Element Supply Voltage.
2.....Battery Positive Voltage.
3.....Passenger Side Impact Module High Control.
4.....Passenger Seat Belt Switch Signal.
5.....Passenger Side Impact Module Low Control.
6.....Passenger Seat Belt Switch Low Reference.
7....Passenger Seat Belt Anchor High Control.
8.....Passenger Seat Position Switch Signal.
9.....Passenger Seat Belt Anchor Low Control.
10.....Battery Positive Voltage lumbar support.
11.....Passenger Heated Seat NTC Low Reference.
12....Low Speed Serial Data.
12....Passenger Seat Belt Signal.
13.....Ground lumbar support.
14.....Passenger Heated Seat NTC Signal.
15.....Ground.
16.....Passenger Heated Seat Element Return.

Seat Connector Drivers Side wire colors..

.......body side........seat side.......

1........RD-GY.............RD.
2........BN-D-BU..........BK-D-BU.
3..........OG-D-BU..........OG-BN.
4..........OG-BN...........BN-OG.
5.........D-GN-OG.........D-GN-OG .
6..........BK-OG..........BK-OG.
7..........OG-YE...........D-GN.
8..........OG-D-GN.......WH-GY.
9...........YE-OG..........BN.
10...........RD-GY.........D-BU.
11..........BK-GY........YE-OG.
12...........D-GN........YE-OG.
13............BK........BK-WH.
14..........WH-GY..........WH-GY.
15...........GY-BK..........GY-BK.
16..........BK...............BK.

Passenger Seat Connector wire colors..

Body Side........Seat Side.......

1...........BN-D-BU........BN-D-BU.
2...........RD-D-GN........RD-D-GN.
3............OG-GY...........BN.
4.............OG-VT...........OG-VT.
5 ..............BN-OG.........D-BU.
6...............BK-OG.........BK-VT.
7 ..............OG-BN..........OG-D-BN.
8 .............OG-D-BU....OG-D-BU.
9............GY-OG.........GY-OG.
10............RD-GY.......RD.
11...........BK-GY........BK-GY.
12............D-GN........D-GN.
12...........OG-BN.......OG-BN.
13..............BK..........BK.
14............WH-GY.......WH-GY.
15...........BK...........BK.
16...........GY-BK......GY-BK.

If all the Pins are there Apart from (10) and (13)
you are Good to go for the Heated Seats
but you Need to add Power and Ground
for the Lumber Support next in position (13, Ground Lumber)
And Position (10, battery positive lumber).

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LUMBER SUPPORT HOW TO...........

You may have the Pins already There
So this will not be a Problem for you.

And you may have the ground there also
and just need the power
if so skip the ground how to and go straight to adding the power.

But in my Case they both were not There
I added the Two Missing Pins to the Body Side Connector
Position (13 is ground) so add the Pin to the Drivers Seat Connector Body side
and Run the Wire under the Carpet and under the Center Console to the Passenger seat
just Remove the Trim on each side of the Center Console They just Pull off
and then Push the Wire through to the Other side.

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Then add a Pin to Position (13) on the Passenger Seat Body side Connector
Splice the Driver Seat wire and the Passenger Seat Wire Together
and Run the Wire to a Ground Point and fix it there
i Removed the Glove Box and just Behind there you will Find a good Earth Point.

For Glove Box Removal Follow the Link.

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For the Power add a Pin to Position (10) on the Drivers seat Connector Body Side
and again run the Wire to the Passenger Seat
Under the Carpet and through the Center Console
the add a pin to position 10 on the passenger seat connector body side

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Then Splice the Two Wires Together
And run the Wire under the Carpet too the Fuse Box in the Glove Box
Remove the (10 amp fuse) from (Position 16) as this is Live but has No Use
Then add a Piggy Back Fuse with Two (10 Amp Fuses)
Too Position (16 in the Glove Box Fuse box).

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This will give the Power for the Lumber Support to work
This is best Wired up when the Seats are out of the Car
So you can Route the wires under the Carpet  
the Pins in the Connector are the same ones Used for the Power Fold Mirrors.

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And can be Found at..

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HEATED SEATS HOW TO............

All you have to do Now is fit the Correct Heater Controls and Pt them in Place
For none Climate Control or Standard AC your Heater Controls should look like this
With the Heated Seat Buttons you need.

Part Number GM 13360100...  

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If you have Climate Control you will need the Heated seat Controls like This
with the Heated seat Buttons.  

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You will need the Correct Heater Controls for your car
you can not Add the Wrong ones.
for info on Removing the Radio Surround Trim
and Replacing the Heater Controller Follow the First part of This.

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That is the Hard Part out off the way Now its time too fit the Seats in too the car
and the Heated Seats and Electric Lumber Support will now work when you fit the Seats
There is no Programming needed this is Plug and Play.

NOTE.......

There will be no Issues with Seat Airbags as Long as they have not been Activated if they have
you will have to Swap your old Air Bags over to the new seats.

Pre MY12 cars with Leather Seats have Electric Lumber Support
On both Drivers and Passengers Seats
after MY12 only the Drivers Seat will have the Electric Lumber Support.

FITTING THE INTERIOR.........

To Remove the Front seats
undo the Clip for the Main seat Connector under the seat.

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Remove the Two T50 Torx Bolts
from the Rear Seat Rails.

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Tilt the front seat Forward and Pull the seat back
so the Hooks come out the Holes at the front
Remove the Plastic Trim around the seat Belt Presenter
start at the Back and pull it away.

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to Gain access to a T50 Torx Bolt for the Seat Presenter.
undo the Yellow Connector under the Seat
This is attached to the seat Belt Presenter.

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The front seats will Now be Free to Remove
Refit in Reverse.

Next Remove rear Lower Bench Pull the seat up and out from the Back till it Pops out
remove the two White Plastic Lugs that hold the Rear seat down
and Refit them to your new Seat before you put it back in the car.

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Remove the upper Lower seat Bench
Tilt it forward Starting at the Larger side first and Push it Up and Out
Pull the seat Apart from the Small side
then undo one 19mm Bolt from the Seat Belt
then Tilt the smaller side and Push it Up and Out.

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Note the Correct Position of the Seat Belt Bracket and Refit the Bolt the same way
and that is the Rear out and then Refit in Reverse.

RESULTS.........

That is it all Done you now have Leather Heated seats and Electric Lumber Support.

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if you Need to Swap the Door Cards over follow the.

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Need any Help just ask here Thank,s.

AS WITH ALL ELECTRICAL HOW TOO,S.
you do this at your own risk if you follow the how to correctly
there should be no problems thank you.
 

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We did Lewis's new leather seats yesterday and we found the connections have changed for the pretension-er.

Luckily Cam had a soldering iron and changed the connection over.
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good to know
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yeh and love them, Smile gave them a good clean today and sorted the arm rest as we found there was two different types. So today I pulled the back off the center console [behind armrest] and pulled the 6-8" metal pin out and swap the whole armrest over.
Looks amazing Smile thanks to Rusty and Cam fitting them Smile

Just need to get the control panel for the heated seats and sort the lumber control out Smile
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do you have climate or standard ac controls ?
the standard ac with heated seats are very rare on ebay
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Strand ac i guess same as you photo mate


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there is one here but you would have to persuade him to sell it separate
i am sure it was £180 new just for the controls i got lucky and found one on ebay but i have not seen one since
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Already have mate paid £50 for it and being aent tomorrow lol :-)


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that links to speakers mate, the one your on about he wont post wants cash..
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He is posting now mate :-)


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link fixed and wel done
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Lewis6317 Wrote:He is posting now mate :-)


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cool your soon have a warm ****
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Yeh :-) tucpal, was that the right size speakers for our doors 6.5" as im looking for a package for all speakers with tweeters and centre speaker


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i just put some links to speakers etc in the astra j gtc section for cammaron earlier Wink_1
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Already have after market speakers in door but i want to change them and get all same which inculed the dash tweeters and centre


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the center was 3.5
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:-) im just trying to find a set :-/ would like boss i think are the best but cant


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all depends on what you want to spend
how about this
scrap that sorry

focal is very good
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I have adapters already fitted :-) thats pricey lol

I was looking on halford there is some edge ones

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You two should know better than to go off topic this much Couch


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dont worry i will delete it all Salute_002Rofl
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Lewis has found his elec lumber works without having to add any new wiring. But unlike a MY12-13 it will only work with ignition on.


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my one will work on or off
but that is the second facelift that has had no problems with the lumbar support

my seats have both front seats having the electric lumbar support
so that may have something to do with it but glad he had no problems
has the seat heating controls turned up ?
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Omg only my drivers seats has lumbar... Yeh mate turned up and working :-) love it


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Oh my lumbar does work without engine being on. Could this be because i now have the correct panel for the seats?


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may be ?

the older seats had both lumber this was removed sometime in 2012 2013
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oh right my seats are from a j 2012 lol
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You just mist out never mind you only really sit in the front and my heated seat is cutting out constantly now I need a new drivers seat


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Oh dear :-( not good


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any idea if its at all possible to fit these seats and get lumbar and heating functions working without the rear fuse box? My car doesn't have it but I've spoken to some people on other forums and also in a local garage and they don't seem phased by it...they still think it can be done...
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Is it a GTC or ASTRA j you have
you would be the first i know of who does not have it
possibly you would need to change the fuse board over
to get the power for the heated seats
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tucpal Wrote:Is it a GTC or ASTRA j you have
you would be the first i know of who does not have it
possibly you would need to change the fuse board over
to get the power for the heated seats

I have the 5 door J Energy model from 2013. I have opened the little compartment on the left inside the boot and it's empty...that's where the board would be isn't it? And by change it over do you mean actually busy and install one? Basically i have bought the seats but now really need to know what would be the best way of fitting them to get everything working
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do you mean you do not have a fuse board at all ??
if you do your 100% dont have the fuses marked here

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tucpal Wrote:do you meen you do not have a fuse board at all ??

Nope! Compartment is completely empty except from a few black wires which seem to disappear behind the bodywork
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Rusty do you know why this is ??

there may be a way but i need to check the wiring

the lumber is easy as explained in the how to
and i take it you do not have the heater control's as yet
have you checked the connector under the seat
and checked you have all the pins in there also
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tucpal Wrote:Rusty can you enplane this ??

there may be a way but i need to check the wiring

the lumber is easy as explained in the how to
and i take it you do not have the heater control's as yet
have you checked the connector under the seat
and checked you have all the pins in there also

I haven't bought it yet no, was going too tomorrow or when I get the seats...And I'll be checking for the pins and connecters tomorrow too, haven't been able too as only really knew I would be able to get the seats a few hours ago. To be honest I'm more than likely going to get a garage to do most of this for me, I'm not fantastic when it comes to auto electrics! I take it you don't run a garage do you? Would just ask you to do it if so and pay you Tongue ha
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it may not be as easy as you think
if you do not have the fuse board at all
you may well not have any pins in the connector
and if they are not there
then there is no wiring at all to the heated seat controls
heated seat control module and the body control module
so this will or may not work at all

you need to take the connector apart and check the pins first
you can just have the seats without the heated seats
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tucpal Wrote:it may not be as easy as you think
if you do not have the fuse board at all
you may well not have any pins in the connector
and if they are not there
then there is no wiring at all to the heated seat controls
heated seat control module and the body control module
so this will or may not work at all

you need to take the connector apart and check the pins first
you can just have the seats without the heated seats

I don't think it will be easy at all tbh! Ha. The garage I spoke too seemed to think there would be a way even without the fuse box though, he just said that there's always a way. But with regards to the lumbar support, is this just controlled via on seat controls once wired up or is this controlled from the centre console? Again i'd actually get a garage to do this too, I don't mind doing some mechanic work but I don't trust myself with electrical stuff! Thanks for your help so far btw. Just worried about getting these seats now and then finding out I can't actually do anything with them :(
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the lumber support will just need power and ground
adding to the correct pins on the seat connection
and works from a button on the seat that bit is easy.

Drivers seat..
Position 10 positive to a piggy back fuse in position 16 glove box fuse box
Position 13 ground to you nearest grounding point Nut behind the glove box.

and if you have lumber support on both seats wire them up the same
and just join the wires to the wires you have just done for the drivers seat.

the heated seats are a different matter all together
and will all depend on what pins you have
in the connector under the seat.
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Also Welcome sheppy
you will get alot more help on here mate
from actual Astra j owners Smile

if you look at the door card removal how to on here
and the ambient door lights how to
you will find the other info you have been looking for Wink_1
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No Idea why there is no rear fuse-board they might of changed something but I can only check up-to 2011 wiring and pins for free otherwise it's £10 to go online and check them.

Unless it's because it's base model.

The first thing I would do is check the connector under the seat, and see what you have If you have all the wiring then we need to trace it.

Where are based I'm in Bournemouth if that's any good.
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tucpal Wrote:the lumber support will just need power and ground
adding to the correct pins on the seat connection
and works from a button on the seat that bit is easy.

Drivers seat..
Position 10 positive to a piggy back fuse in position 16 glove box fuse box
Position 13 ground to you nearest grounding point Nut behind the glove box.

and if you have lumber support on both seats wire them up the same
and just join the wires to the wires you have just done for the drivers seat.

the heated seats are a different matter all together
and will all depend on what pins you have
in the connector under the seat.

Right got ya! Now this diea seem doable which is what I wanted to hear! Smile only problem we have now is that I'm useless when it comes to wiring and electrics...I mean I want to give this a go myself but wondering if id be safer getting someone else to do it with you instructions..

Regardless, I'll have a check in that connector and report back Smile

Also thanks for the welcome! Seems like a great forum to be honest, lots of good how tos! Have already checked out the ambient light one Wink hehe. My other thing is trying to work out how to wire my gear stick light in because the plug doesn't seem to be giving out the power I need :(
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Rusty2009 Wrote:No Idea why there is no rear fuse-board they might of changed something but I can only check up-to 2011 wiring and pins for free otherwise it's £10 to go online and check them.

Unless it's because it's base model.

The first thing I would do is check the connector under the seat, and see what you have If you have all the wiring then we need to trace it.

Where are based I'm in Bournemouth if that's any good.

Hi rusty! Smile

What's this check for then? And also would tracing the wiring (if I had it) then show you where the connectors are going too instead of this rear fuse box?

Hmmmm unfortunately not :( I live just outside of manchester..
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I can check what you have fitted from the factory etc, well if you have the wires in the connectors under the seats then we know they go somewhere, it could be that they only run so far though the car or it could be that go off somewhere else.

TBH you most likely could take the power from elsewhere for the heated seats if need be.
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I think that's what the garage was planning yanno, they seemed pretty sure they could do it regardless of what fuses boxes I had.

As I said I'm gonna chech the connector today, is there only one cable to unplug from the battery so that I don't blow the airbags?
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Just pull the negative off and give it 10-30 mins to shut all the systems down


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Any idea how much the heater controls are, part number GM 13360100? Thanks
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£150 ish new
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Rusty2009 Wrote:£150 ish new

oh crap...I only thought they were £50!!! May have to just get the lumbar support sorted for now and the heating controls etc. done at another date...That can be done can't it, don't need the console controls to do anything except activate the heated seats do I?
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it will all depend on the connector and what pins are in there
we know you dont have the fuse so no power
so check that first then i can work out what is missing
as i said it is not that straight forward doing the heated seats as you might think

just fit the seats first
then try the button on the side of the seat
and see if the lumber support moves
if not we need to add power and ground then they will work
no problems at all on that one

last time i checked the heater controls were about £180.
and second hand ones are rare for the standard AC controls
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